Wednesday, August 15, 2012
Reproductive Slavery
Reproduction is thought of by some people as a human right. Usually as a woman's right. Some people think of it as such, but I'm not one of them, because the phrasing I've used just now implies the right to spam one's environment with very small copies of themselves. And that's a tricky issue about resources and do babies own themselves stewardship of another life, and at what point a clump of cells becomes a person and so on, and while these are all interesting questions, they aren't what we're talking about in this discussion. Instead, I believe very strongly that self determination in reproduction is a basic human right. Im not talking about what's recognized by scripture or government or social convention, I'm talking about what I recognize as fundamental and self evident in any human society recognizing the principal of self ownership.
A woman's body, a woman's choice.
And I'll bet some of you have heard me mention that before. I might even give it a name, like, the lie that launched a million rants. Well, perhaps not a million, about a half dozen maybe. But this phrase, a woman's body a woman's choice while it sounds on it's surface like a good solid bit of common sense, is woefully incomplete in explaining the popular public ethic surrounding human reproduction, the courts, the law, and the presently accepted use of violent force against those who have their own bodies in the race, but neither choice, nor rights, and often, not even a voice. A woman's body a woman's choice carries a lot of meaning, and if you're not a woman, one of the things being said is shut up and do what you’re told. And pay up sucker.
The reality of effective autonomy for an individual's control over their own fertility has two components. The first what is practical through technologies which afford an individual control of their own body's reproductive capability. For women, this comes through a wide array of consumer products and technologies, including birth control pills, diaphragms, foams, subcutaneous implants, injections, creams, jellies patches and other technologies. This is the practical technology of control women have access to. However, balancing the techniques and technologies are legal rights. Women, quite rightly
own the basic human rights of self determination in reproduction under the colour of law.
Men, by contrast enjoy no such legal rights, and when this is pointed out in an effort towards correction, that old mantra is trotted out again. “A woman's body, a woman's choice”. Men, we are told, do not reproduce, and thus, have no need for basic human rights of reproductions which in 2012 are assumed as simple common sense for women.
However, the claim that men do not reproduce, sometimes talked about in terms of pregnancy or child birth – is not a true claim. Women do not become pregnant by pollination by bees, or through parthenogenesis. A baby's manufacture takes the contribution of gamete cells from both a woman and a man.
In the discussion of technology versus legal rights in reproduction, there is a political question – why in the western world, after 50 years of a female pill is there no male birth control pill? It exists, it has been developed
and is used in china. Why don't we have it in the west?
In fact, it has been gender ideologues who unilaterally deny men access to basic birth control technology women have enjoyed for a half century. A male contraceptive pill has existed for at least a decade. According to Dr. Elsimar Coutinho, a Brazilian endocrinologist and a human reproduction scientist, the male pill is widely used in China. However, in an interview on Brazilian TV, Dr Coutinho explained how when seeking approval for a male contraceptive pill based on natural substances extracted from cotton seeds, he was denied permission at the Budapest World Population Congress.
During his interview Coutinho explained:
In Budapest, I went to try to get the support of women. I thought, if women support it. The American feminists were all there, including Betty Freidan. It was her, I started to speak and in some ten minutes, she interrupted. She said: Dr., do you think we’ve fought our whole lives to have in our hands the decision of having children or not? Do you think we’re abdicating that? Men say they’re on the pill, women believe them? Do you know what you are, what you all deserve? To have credibility, swear you’re using pills just to get laid and leave? Leave us with the responsibility and then ‘the pill failed’ ? I was dazzled, because the women stood up screaming NO MALE PILL!!
Just as women are the mothers of the very small human beings we call children, men are the fathers. Unfortunately, whether men who become fathers do so out of genuine choice and desire, or because that choice is taken out of their hands by deception, force, theft, or blackmail – men do not enjoy legal reproductive rights. What they do enjoy is the legal requirement to abide by the decision and choice made by a woman exercising her legal rights in matters reproductive.
We are by no means finished with this catalog of grievance – but a discussion of what is usually blurred past by gender ideologues arguing women's reproductive rights is necessary, and that's chromosomal contribution. The corporation monsanto includes in their business model a practice of suing into extinction farmers who by accident grow plants from the seeds of Monsanto farms which enter their fields blown without intention by the wind.
The producers of food, that which every human alive depends on are sued into extinction by a corporation, with the full support of government and legal system, on the basis of seeds blown accidentally by the wind. That is the existing legal precedent over the unlicensed use of genetic material.
And yet, women often make the decision to reproduce unilaterally, sometimes by lying about their use of the pill or any of the other female technologies for self control of fertility. There are even a substantial number of stories in the media of theft of semen from condoms in the exercise of women's right to engage in baby making, and of purposeful misattribution of fatherhood when play on the side by a prospective mother needs a more financially stable financier than whatever unemployed bad boy who was coming in the side door while soon to be dad was at work, at work.
And a man named father by feminine fiat has no legal choice. Ready for another objection? He made his choice to be a daddy when he chose to have sex. Ive heard this objection too many times to count, and to everyone whose given this claim voice without intention to refute it, shame on you.
The choice to have sex is not the choice to produce a baby for women, and nor should it be, because reproductive rights are a subset of basic human rights. That's not even the right to spam the local environment with copies of yourself. It's the right to not reproduce, and under current legal convention, men don't have this right.
But it's worse than just that. Although a man can be co-opted into fatherhood, with his own gamete cells or even with somebody else's – its worse than that. Men are required by law to finance the exercised reproductive choices of women. If a man finds himself in this un-chosen obligation without the financial means to keep paying for up to 18 years – our society will cheerfully throw him in a prison cell. Debtors prisons, despite being illegal are still used against men if they don't pay for the baby-making they have no legal rights over.
But it's even worse that this. Women, being the only humans who have reproductive rights also enjoy the ability to eject fathers from the families they are part of, while retaining a significant fraction of the income of these men. The family courts are the instrument of this process, those courts funding them selves by a fraction of the appropriated income of these men. And if they cannot pay – our media rather than correctly identifying them as exploited, denied basic human rights, and treated as money and labor dispensing appliances – we instead call these men deadbeat dads. And once we've labeled men as such, our media, our politicians and celebrity talking heads heap contempt and scorn on a class of humans denied a fundamental human right.
And when all this is pointed out in argument, what is the most common response from those who would deny men a legal right in reproduction. Ready? Having and raising a child is difficult and costly, and therefore, the unwilling co-option of another human being's income and life, well, thats perfectly fine because a woman choosing to reproduce is undertaking a big expensive and life consuming project.
That's the argument men claiming their own human rights in reproduction encounter with regularity in this debate.
This is a system under which people are treated as property, and are forced to work. These people can be held against their will, and deprived of the right to leave, deprived of the right to choice in their lives or work, robbed of the financial compensation for their work. Historically, the social institution allowing this was recognized by many societies. In more recent times this has been outlawed in most societies although it continues through the practices of debt bondage, indentured servitude, domestic servants kept in captivity, child soldiers, and forced marriage, and forced reproduction and forced reproductive financing.
And in order to continue to argue, to deny men legal self determination in reproduction, those making the oppositional case must either defend the institution of slavery, or deny that men are human beings.
Brazilian TV interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JymN5yu-K_o
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ReplyDeleteInstead of fighting for equal access to and equal responsibility for the child (as opposed to the way things work now) a lot of MRAs are fighting for the right to get women pregnant with zero consequences, rationalizing abandoning their own offspring by the fact that some women can have a painful invasive medical procedure to terminate a pregnancy (often assuming that abortion on demand is an option in every state).
ReplyDeleteYou damn your cause by advocating this, you will never gain the popular support needed to make any difference because you alienate both men and women.
BTW in response to your stupid response to a two week old comment, a lot of men's wives and daughters identify as feminists, feminism doesn't mean what you say it means, and you're talking about the women themselves when you talk about feminists.
If you weren't such an intellectual coward that you have to prevent people who disagree with you from posting on your channel, I'd respond there.
Say that to the "Agent Orange Files" they 100% prove feminism is indeed a hate movement and as expected you did nothing but lie in this comment of yours because you refuse to allow men to have any rights you savage neanderthal woman.Either men will get access to the male pill and all rights, humanism is your enemy as is the men rights movements or any movement interested in true equality unlike your movement and everything feminists say & do prove feminism is all about enslavement of males, mutilatin, hatred,etc and unfortunately your words have no ground to stand upon but mine do because evidence of what i say is all around.Feminists only have lies & hearsay but no actual scientific research to back anything they claim thus being the nail driven into feminism's Coffin.
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ReplyDeleteI don't mean any disrespect, but I think you are missing a fundamental point that perhaps wasn't clear in this article. That is that SOME women, may be fooling men by saying they are on the pill for example, and getting pregnant because they want to have a child. When this happens, a man has no remedy. He can not choose to make you get an abortion, nor can he prove that she fooled him (usually). What this article is saying, is that there is no protection from such a scam. To say that this doesn't happen, would be invalidating, a very valid concern that men have. We are not evil because we want to have some recourse for being mistreated if it happens. Obviously, if a baby is born, it needs to be cared for somehow. Why not bring out the male pill, to at least MINIMIZE the actual cases where men have been victimized this way.